Westboro Baptist uses the Bible for a proof text for hatred. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding. Those who fell outside the box and had to be pushed away people who call themselves Calvinist have never really read Calvin. I am having trouble keeping up with all the comments between the two. I am not the smartest person in the world and I know that what seems logical to me can, in fact, be wrong . How is that? There is some truth in this, but to bring thought control into it turns it into legalism. He didnt say to have faith in the Reformation, or Tulip, or Keller, or your pastor/elder, husband, or Mary. Maybe only a part of it is wrong, maybe the whole thing. http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/09/taking-calvinism-too-far-rc-sproul-jrs-evil-creating-deity/, Having left my few years of Calvinism through a Lutheran rescue, I just pictured a bunch of Germans and Norwegians riding in on cavalry horses, flying a Lutheran rose and singing A Mighty Fortress Is Our God, @ Hester: Make that Ein Feste Burg is Unser Gott, Hester! But to have to constantly think, Must remember its for Gods glory is sheer legalism and bondage. And requires even more general kindness and that continued diet in that warm kitchen. 1550-1616), who was not. And I kind of doubt youre on call to give your Testimony in church; it just doesnt jibe with the Conventional Christianese Testimony. Have you forgotten his evangelism tours where there were great multitudes of rebaptisms? Every kindness & every meanness I do sends ripples outward and I birth the future by my words and deeds. But the guy still strikes me as the I have Everything figured out! I have the utmost respect for my long-time regular reader and pastor who happens to be Calvinist, Craig Vick, who posted the following comment on my blog article where I was struggling with the doctrinal/abuse confusion: For what its worth, from now on Ill make sure I think of your story and the stories of others before I express my theology. @JohnPiper: Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped.Job 1:20. I find it troubling too. It seems to me that JeffS and Craig (over at SSB) understand that point and are processing it beautifully. The guy in the video I linked to above (or the host of the channel, I forget which after I watched the first video, I watched about five more by the bearded guy who owns the channel) mentioned WCF, too, and pointed out what he considered to be flaws with WCFs statements, which he seemed to think are in agreement with some Calvinistic views about God decreeing stuff/ predestination. People, including you, got upset from Calvinists just stating their views. That's pretty darn impressive, and many many . Why did I smile? For example, I will admit that I do not see how a good, all powerful God can exist while evil also exists. It was you! Written by Daniel Isaiah Joseph in Charts. Learning as we go, making mistakes but so what, & learning from them.